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  • Let $f:(-1,1) rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be smooth on $(-1,1)$, $f(0) = 1$. Find $f(x)$.

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Let $f:(-1,1)rightarrowmathbb R$ be infinitely differentiable on $(-1,1)$ with $f(0)=1$ and has the following properties:



(1) $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ for every $xin (-1, 1)$ and for every $nin mathbb N$



(2) $f'(frac{1}{m+1})=0$ for every $min mathbb N$



I need to:



Find the value of $f^{(n)}(0)$ for each $nin mathbb N$



Determine the value of $f(x)$ for every $xin(-1,1)$



I claim that $f^{(n)}(0)=0$ for all $nin mathbb N$ and I wanted to prove this by induction. When $n=1$, we note that by (2), $f'(0)=0$ by the sequential criterion for limits with $mrightarrow infty$. However, I am not sure on how to prove the inductive step.



I note that from (1), we have $f(x)lefrac{1}{1-x}$ by Taylor's Theorem.



Any help is greatly appreciated!










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    • Let $f:(-1,1) rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be smooth on $(-1,1)$, $f(0) = 1$. Find $f(x)$.

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    Let $f:(-1,1)rightarrowmathbb R$ be infinitely differentiable on $(-1,1)$ with $f(0)=1$ and has the following properties:



    (1) $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ for every $xin (-1, 1)$ and for every $nin mathbb N$



    (2) $f'(frac{1}{m+1})=0$ for every $min mathbb N$



    I need to:



    Find the value of $f^{(n)}(0)$ for each $nin mathbb N$



    Determine the value of $f(x)$ for every $xin(-1,1)$



    I claim that $f^{(n)}(0)=0$ for all $nin mathbb N$ and I wanted to prove this by induction. When $n=1$, we note that by (2), $f'(0)=0$ by the sequential criterion for limits with $mrightarrow infty$. However, I am not sure on how to prove the inductive step.



    I note that from (1), we have $f(x)lefrac{1}{1-x}$ by Taylor's Theorem.



    Any help is greatly appreciated!










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      Let $f:(-1,1)rightarrowmathbb R$ be infinitely differentiable on $(-1,1)$ with $f(0)=1$ and has the following properties:



      (1) $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ for every $xin (-1, 1)$ and for every $nin mathbb N$



      (2) $f'(frac{1}{m+1})=0$ for every $min mathbb N$



      I need to:



      Find the value of $f^{(n)}(0)$ for each $nin mathbb N$



      Determine the value of $f(x)$ for every $xin(-1,1)$



      I claim that $f^{(n)}(0)=0$ for all $nin mathbb N$ and I wanted to prove this by induction. When $n=1$, we note that by (2), $f'(0)=0$ by the sequential criterion for limits with $mrightarrow infty$. However, I am not sure on how to prove the inductive step.



      I note that from (1), we have $f(x)lefrac{1}{1-x}$ by Taylor's Theorem.



      Any help is greatly appreciated!










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      • Let $f:(-1,1) rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be smooth on $(-1,1)$, $f(0) = 1$. Find $f(x)$.

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      Let $f:(-1,1)rightarrowmathbb R$ be infinitely differentiable on $(-1,1)$ with $f(0)=1$ and has the following properties:



      (1) $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ for every $xin (-1, 1)$ and for every $nin mathbb N$



      (2) $f'(frac{1}{m+1})=0$ for every $min mathbb N$



      I need to:



      Find the value of $f^{(n)}(0)$ for each $nin mathbb N$



      Determine the value of $f(x)$ for every $xin(-1,1)$



      I claim that $f^{(n)}(0)=0$ for all $nin mathbb N$ and I wanted to prove this by induction. When $n=1$, we note that by (2), $f'(0)=0$ by the sequential criterion for limits with $mrightarrow infty$. However, I am not sure on how to prove the inductive step.



      I note that from (1), we have $f(x)lefrac{1}{1-x}$ by Taylor's Theorem.



      Any help is greatly appreciated!





      This question already has an answer here:




      • Let $f:(-1,1) rightarrow mathbb{R}$ be smooth on $(-1,1)$, $f(0) = 1$. Find $f(x)$.

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          Rolle's theorem implies that $f''$ has a zero in the interval $(frac{1}{m+2}, frac{1}{m+1})$
          for each $m in Bbb N$, therefore $f''(0) = 0$.



          The same argument can be repeated to show that each derivative $f^{(k)}$ has
          a sequence of zeros converging to $0$.



          (The estimate $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ is not needed for this
          conclusion.)






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            Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
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            @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
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            As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
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          Hint. Let us consider the case $n=2$ (try by your own the case $n>2$)



          For any $minmathbb{N}$, by using the Taylor expansion of $f'$ at $0$, we have that there exists $t_min (-1,1)$ such that
          $$f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=f'(0)+f''(0)cdot frac{1}{m+1}+frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)^2}.$$
          Since $f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=0$ and we already know that $f'(0)=0$, it follows
          $$f''(0)=-frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)}$$
          which implies that as $mto+infty$,
          $$|f''(0)|=frac{|f'''(t_m)|}{2}cdot frac{1} {(m+1)}leqfrac{M_3} {2(m+1)}to 0.$$
          where $M_3=max_{xin[-1/2,1/2]}| f^{(3)}(x)|$ (the assumption $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ in $(-1,1)$ is not needed).






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            Rolle's theorem implies that $f''$ has a zero in the interval $(frac{1}{m+2}, frac{1}{m+1})$
            for each $m in Bbb N$, therefore $f''(0) = 0$.



            The same argument can be repeated to show that each derivative $f^{(k)}$ has
            a sequence of zeros converging to $0$.



            (The estimate $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ is not needed for this
            conclusion.)






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              Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
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              @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
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              – Martin R
              Nov 23 '18 at 9:57










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              As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
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              – Robert Z
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            Rolle's theorem implies that $f''$ has a zero in the interval $(frac{1}{m+2}, frac{1}{m+1})$
            for each $m in Bbb N$, therefore $f''(0) = 0$.



            The same argument can be repeated to show that each derivative $f^{(k)}$ has
            a sequence of zeros converging to $0$.



            (The estimate $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ is not needed for this
            conclusion.)






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              Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
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              @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
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              – Martin R
              Nov 23 '18 at 9:57










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              As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
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            Rolle's theorem implies that $f''$ has a zero in the interval $(frac{1}{m+2}, frac{1}{m+1})$
            for each $m in Bbb N$, therefore $f''(0) = 0$.



            The same argument can be repeated to show that each derivative $f^{(k)}$ has
            a sequence of zeros converging to $0$.



            (The estimate $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ is not needed for this
            conclusion.)






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            Rolle's theorem implies that $f''$ has a zero in the interval $(frac{1}{m+2}, frac{1}{m+1})$
            for each $m in Bbb N$, therefore $f''(0) = 0$.



            The same argument can be repeated to show that each derivative $f^{(k)}$ has
            a sequence of zeros converging to $0$.



            (The estimate $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ is not needed for this
            conclusion.)







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            • $begingroup$
              Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
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              – Robert Z
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            • $begingroup$
              @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
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              – Martin R
              Nov 23 '18 at 9:57










            • $begingroup$
              As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Nov 23 '18 at 12:51




















            • $begingroup$
              Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Nov 23 '18 at 9:41












            • $begingroup$
              @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
              $endgroup$
              – Martin R
              Nov 23 '18 at 9:57










            • $begingroup$
              As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
              $endgroup$
              – Robert Z
              Nov 23 '18 at 12:51


















            $begingroup$
            Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 23 '18 at 9:41






            $begingroup$
            Nice answer (+1). I realized that also by my approach the estimate of $n$-th derivative is not needed
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 23 '18 at 9:41














            $begingroup$
            @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin R
            Nov 23 '18 at 9:57




            $begingroup$
            @RobertZ: Thanks. – As it turns out, the question has been asked and answered before, unfortunately I did not notice that before posting the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – Martin R
            Nov 23 '18 at 9:57












            $begingroup$
            As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 23 '18 at 12:51






            $begingroup$
            As far as I can see no answers there pointed out that the estimate on $f^{(n)}$ is superfluous.
            $endgroup$
            – Robert Z
            Nov 23 '18 at 12:51













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            Hint. Let us consider the case $n=2$ (try by your own the case $n>2$)



            For any $minmathbb{N}$, by using the Taylor expansion of $f'$ at $0$, we have that there exists $t_min (-1,1)$ such that
            $$f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=f'(0)+f''(0)cdot frac{1}{m+1}+frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)^2}.$$
            Since $f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=0$ and we already know that $f'(0)=0$, it follows
            $$f''(0)=-frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)}$$
            which implies that as $mto+infty$,
            $$|f''(0)|=frac{|f'''(t_m)|}{2}cdot frac{1} {(m+1)}leqfrac{M_3} {2(m+1)}to 0.$$
            where $M_3=max_{xin[-1/2,1/2]}| f^{(3)}(x)|$ (the assumption $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ in $(-1,1)$ is not needed).






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              Hint. Let us consider the case $n=2$ (try by your own the case $n>2$)



              For any $minmathbb{N}$, by using the Taylor expansion of $f'$ at $0$, we have that there exists $t_min (-1,1)$ such that
              $$f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=f'(0)+f''(0)cdot frac{1}{m+1}+frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)^2}.$$
              Since $f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=0$ and we already know that $f'(0)=0$, it follows
              $$f''(0)=-frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)}$$
              which implies that as $mto+infty$,
              $$|f''(0)|=frac{|f'''(t_m)|}{2}cdot frac{1} {(m+1)}leqfrac{M_3} {2(m+1)}to 0.$$
              where $M_3=max_{xin[-1/2,1/2]}| f^{(3)}(x)|$ (the assumption $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ in $(-1,1)$ is not needed).






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                Hint. Let us consider the case $n=2$ (try by your own the case $n>2$)



                For any $minmathbb{N}$, by using the Taylor expansion of $f'$ at $0$, we have that there exists $t_min (-1,1)$ such that
                $$f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=f'(0)+f''(0)cdot frac{1}{m+1}+frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)^2}.$$
                Since $f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=0$ and we already know that $f'(0)=0$, it follows
                $$f''(0)=-frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)}$$
                which implies that as $mto+infty$,
                $$|f''(0)|=frac{|f'''(t_m)|}{2}cdot frac{1} {(m+1)}leqfrac{M_3} {2(m+1)}to 0.$$
                where $M_3=max_{xin[-1/2,1/2]}| f^{(3)}(x)|$ (the assumption $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ in $(-1,1)$ is not needed).






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                Hint. Let us consider the case $n=2$ (try by your own the case $n>2$)



                For any $minmathbb{N}$, by using the Taylor expansion of $f'$ at $0$, we have that there exists $t_min (-1,1)$ such that
                $$f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=f'(0)+f''(0)cdot frac{1}{m+1}+frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)^2}.$$
                Since $f'left(frac{1}{m+1}right)=0$ and we already know that $f'(0)=0$, it follows
                $$f''(0)=-frac{f'''(t_m)}{2}cdot frac{1}{(m+1)}$$
                which implies that as $mto+infty$,
                $$|f''(0)|=frac{|f'''(t_m)|}{2}cdot frac{1} {(m+1)}leqfrac{M_3} {2(m+1)}to 0.$$
                where $M_3=max_{xin[-1/2,1/2]}| f^{(3)}(x)|$ (the assumption $vert f^{(n)}(x)vert le n!$ in $(-1,1)$ is not needed).







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