What are the different names of Fenrir / Fenris Wolf?
In the book Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman (2017) both the names Fenrir and Fenris Wolf are used.
Example, from chapter Ragnarok: The Final Destiny of the Gods:
Fenrir, the great wolf, will free himself from his shackles... Where
Fenris Wolf walks, flaming destruction follows.
This distinction in name usage does not appear to be random or unintentional. As in the above quote, both forms of the name are used sometimes in close proximity.
My first thought was that the term "Fenris" in "Fenris Wolf" was being used as a sort of modifier / adjective. But since "Wolf" is capitalized that does not seem correct. More that "Fenris Wolf" is the full name but "Fenrir" is a type of abbreviation?
I didn't count carefully but "Fenrir" appears to be the more common usage.
I'm interested in anything related to this specific book, its sources, related authentic materials, etc. (But not the Marvel Universe).
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In the book Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman (2017) both the names Fenrir and Fenris Wolf are used.
Example, from chapter Ragnarok: The Final Destiny of the Gods:
Fenrir, the great wolf, will free himself from his shackles... Where
Fenris Wolf walks, flaming destruction follows.
This distinction in name usage does not appear to be random or unintentional. As in the above quote, both forms of the name are used sometimes in close proximity.
My first thought was that the term "Fenris" in "Fenris Wolf" was being used as a sort of modifier / adjective. But since "Wolf" is capitalized that does not seem correct. More that "Fenris Wolf" is the full name but "Fenrir" is a type of abbreviation?
I didn't count carefully but "Fenrir" appears to be the more common usage.
I'm interested in anything related to this specific book, its sources, related authentic materials, etc. (But not the Marvel Universe).
mythology neil-gaiman norse
asked 5 hours ago
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It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago
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In the book Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman (2017) both the names Fenrir and Fenris Wolf are used.
Example, from chapter Ragnarok: The Final Destiny of the Gods:
Fenrir, the great wolf, will free himself from his shackles... Where
Fenris Wolf walks, flaming destruction follows.
This distinction in name usage does not appear to be random or unintentional. As in the above quote, both forms of the name are used sometimes in close proximity.
My first thought was that the term "Fenris" in "Fenris Wolf" was being used as a sort of modifier / adjective. But since "Wolf" is capitalized that does not seem correct. More that "Fenris Wolf" is the full name but "Fenrir" is a type of abbreviation?
I didn't count carefully but "Fenrir" appears to be the more common usage.
I'm interested in anything related to this specific book, its sources, related authentic materials, etc. (But not the Marvel Universe).
mythology neil-gaiman norse
asked 5 hours ago
DaveInCazDaveInCaz
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In the book Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman (2017) both the names Fenrir and Fenris Wolf are used.
Example, from chapter Ragnarok: The Final Destiny of the Gods:
Fenrir, the great wolf, will free himself from his shackles... Where
Fenris Wolf walks, flaming destruction follows.
This distinction in name usage does not appear to be random or unintentional. As in the above quote, both forms of the name are used sometimes in close proximity.
My first thought was that the term "Fenris" in "Fenris Wolf" was being used as a sort of modifier / adjective. But since "Wolf" is capitalized that does not seem correct. More that "Fenris Wolf" is the full name but "Fenrir" is a type of abbreviation?
I didn't count carefully but "Fenrir" appears to be the more common usage.
I'm interested in anything related to this specific book, its sources, related authentic materials, etc. (But not the Marvel Universe).
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It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago
add a comment |
It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago
It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago
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In Norse mythology, he is called both Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr. Fenrisúlfr means Fenrir's Wolf, but it seems to be common to translate it as Fenris Wolf.
For example, here's a poem (from Vafþrúðnismál, I believe) that calls him "Fenrir":
Óðinn kvað:
"Fjölð ek fór, fjölð ek freistaðak,
fjölð ek of reynda regin:
Hvaðan kemr sól á inn slétta himin,
er þessa hefr fenrir farit?"
Othin spake:
"Much have I fared, | much have I found,
Much have I got of the gods:
Whence comes the sun | to the smooth sky back,
When Fenrir has snatched it forth?"
And here's an example of it written as "Fenrisúlfr" (from the Skáldskaparmál):
Hvernig skal kenna Loka? Svá, at kalla hann son Fárbauta ok Laufeyjar, Nálar, bróður Býleists ok Helblinda, föður Vánargands, þat er Fenrisúlfr...
How should one periphrase Loki? Thus: call him Son of Fárbauti and Laufey, or of Nil, Brother of Býleistr and of Helblindi, Father of the Monster of Ván (that is, Fenris-Wolf)...
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In Norse mythology, he is called both Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr. Fenrisúlfr means Fenrir's Wolf, but it seems to be common to translate it as Fenris Wolf.
For example, here's a poem (from Vafþrúðnismál, I believe) that calls him "Fenrir":
Óðinn kvað:
"Fjölð ek fór, fjölð ek freistaðak,
fjölð ek of reynda regin:
Hvaðan kemr sól á inn slétta himin,
er þessa hefr fenrir farit?"
Othin spake:
"Much have I fared, | much have I found,
Much have I got of the gods:
Whence comes the sun | to the smooth sky back,
When Fenrir has snatched it forth?"
And here's an example of it written as "Fenrisúlfr" (from the Skáldskaparmál):
Hvernig skal kenna Loka? Svá, at kalla hann son Fárbauta ok Laufeyjar, Nálar, bróður Býleists ok Helblinda, föður Vánargands, þat er Fenrisúlfr...
How should one periphrase Loki? Thus: call him Son of Fárbauti and Laufey, or of Nil, Brother of Býleistr and of Helblindi, Father of the Monster of Ván (that is, Fenris-Wolf)...
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In Norse mythology, he is called both Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr. Fenrisúlfr means Fenrir's Wolf, but it seems to be common to translate it as Fenris Wolf.
For example, here's a poem (from Vafþrúðnismál, I believe) that calls him "Fenrir":
Óðinn kvað:
"Fjölð ek fór, fjölð ek freistaðak,
fjölð ek of reynda regin:
Hvaðan kemr sól á inn slétta himin,
er þessa hefr fenrir farit?"
Othin spake:
"Much have I fared, | much have I found,
Much have I got of the gods:
Whence comes the sun | to the smooth sky back,
When Fenrir has snatched it forth?"
And here's an example of it written as "Fenrisúlfr" (from the Skáldskaparmál):
Hvernig skal kenna Loka? Svá, at kalla hann son Fárbauta ok Laufeyjar, Nálar, bróður Býleists ok Helblinda, föður Vánargands, þat er Fenrisúlfr...
How should one periphrase Loki? Thus: call him Son of Fárbauti and Laufey, or of Nil, Brother of Býleistr and of Helblindi, Father of the Monster of Ván (that is, Fenris-Wolf)...
answered 4 hours ago
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In Norse mythology, he is called both Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr. Fenrisúlfr means Fenrir's Wolf, but it seems to be common to translate it as Fenris Wolf.
For example, here's a poem (from Vafþrúðnismál, I believe) that calls him "Fenrir":
Óðinn kvað:
"Fjölð ek fór, fjölð ek freistaðak,
fjölð ek of reynda regin:
Hvaðan kemr sól á inn slétta himin,
er þessa hefr fenrir farit?"
Othin spake:
"Much have I fared, | much have I found,
Much have I got of the gods:
Whence comes the sun | to the smooth sky back,
When Fenrir has snatched it forth?"
And here's an example of it written as "Fenrisúlfr" (from the Skáldskaparmál):
Hvernig skal kenna Loka? Svá, at kalla hann son Fárbauta ok Laufeyjar, Nálar, bróður Býleists ok Helblinda, föður Vánargands, þat er Fenrisúlfr...
How should one periphrase Loki? Thus: call him Son of Fárbauti and Laufey, or of Nil, Brother of Býleistr and of Helblindi, Father of the Monster of Ván (that is, Fenris-Wolf)...
answered 4 hours ago
LaurelLaurel
4,47511735
In Norse mythology, he is called both Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr. Fenrisúlfr means Fenrir's Wolf, but it seems to be common to translate it as Fenris Wolf.
For example, here's a poem (from Vafþrúðnismál, I believe) that calls him "Fenrir":
Óðinn kvað:
"Fjölð ek fór, fjölð ek freistaðak,
fjölð ek of reynda regin:
Hvaðan kemr sól á inn slétta himin,
er þessa hefr fenrir farit?"
Othin spake:
"Much have I fared, | much have I found,
Much have I got of the gods:
Whence comes the sun | to the smooth sky back,
When Fenrir has snatched it forth?"
And here's an example of it written as "Fenrisúlfr" (from the Skáldskaparmál):
Hvernig skal kenna Loka? Svá, at kalla hann son Fárbauta ok Laufeyjar, Nálar, bróður Býleists ok Helblinda, föður Vánargands, þat er Fenrisúlfr...
How should one periphrase Loki? Thus: call him Son of Fárbauti and Laufey, or of Nil, Brother of Býleistr and of Helblindi, Father of the Monster of Ván (that is, Fenris-Wolf)...
answered 4 hours ago
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It's more two names for the same being - in Old Norse the names were Fenrir and Fenrisúlfr - the latter of which is typically anglicized as 'Fenris-wolf'.
– user888379
4 hours ago
And Fenris-wolf means (if I understand what I've read correctly) "Wolf of the Fens", and I think refers to where he was left imprisoned. So it's as much a title as a name.
– Arcanist Lupus
4 hours ago