Postgres triggers and no-op updates












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On Postgres 9.5 I've implemented an eager materialised view with upsert triggers on UPDATE (I need incremental updating, and the built-in materialised views don't support that), this seems to work well.



But I also have the need to initialise these tables on existing DBs, and sometimes to truncate and rebuild them; I need the built-in REFRESH MATERIALIZED VTEW. I could duplicate the upsert queries in the triggers, modifying the trigger-specific code, but I don't like duplicate code.



I find that running a no-op UPDATE on the trigger's source table(s)



UPDATE source_table SET id = id;


does trigger my triggers, and so updates the view as required.



I've not come across this sort of "touch" query before, and worry that that it might be fragile -- Postgres happens to behave like this now, but it's not standard and will change in 9.6. A justified worry?










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    This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
    – klin
    Nov 21 '18 at 0:58










  • The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
    – Laurenz Albe
    Nov 21 '18 at 4:52
















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On Postgres 9.5 I've implemented an eager materialised view with upsert triggers on UPDATE (I need incremental updating, and the built-in materialised views don't support that), this seems to work well.



But I also have the need to initialise these tables on existing DBs, and sometimes to truncate and rebuild them; I need the built-in REFRESH MATERIALIZED VTEW. I could duplicate the upsert queries in the triggers, modifying the trigger-specific code, but I don't like duplicate code.



I find that running a no-op UPDATE on the trigger's source table(s)



UPDATE source_table SET id = id;


does trigger my triggers, and so updates the view as required.



I've not come across this sort of "touch" query before, and worry that that it might be fragile -- Postgres happens to behave like this now, but it's not standard and will change in 9.6. A justified worry?










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    This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
    – klin
    Nov 21 '18 at 0:58










  • The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
    – Laurenz Albe
    Nov 21 '18 at 4:52














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On Postgres 9.5 I've implemented an eager materialised view with upsert triggers on UPDATE (I need incremental updating, and the built-in materialised views don't support that), this seems to work well.



But I also have the need to initialise these tables on existing DBs, and sometimes to truncate and rebuild them; I need the built-in REFRESH MATERIALIZED VTEW. I could duplicate the upsert queries in the triggers, modifying the trigger-specific code, but I don't like duplicate code.



I find that running a no-op UPDATE on the trigger's source table(s)



UPDATE source_table SET id = id;


does trigger my triggers, and so updates the view as required.



I've not come across this sort of "touch" query before, and worry that that it might be fragile -- Postgres happens to behave like this now, but it's not standard and will change in 9.6. A justified worry?










share|improve this question













On Postgres 9.5 I've implemented an eager materialised view with upsert triggers on UPDATE (I need incremental updating, and the built-in materialised views don't support that), this seems to work well.



But I also have the need to initialise these tables on existing DBs, and sometimes to truncate and rebuild them; I need the built-in REFRESH MATERIALIZED VTEW. I could duplicate the upsert queries in the triggers, modifying the trigger-specific code, but I don't like duplicate code.



I find that running a no-op UPDATE on the trigger's source table(s)



UPDATE source_table SET id = id;


does trigger my triggers, and so updates the view as required.



I've not come across this sort of "touch" query before, and worry that that it might be fragile -- Postgres happens to behave like this now, but it's not standard and will change in 9.6. A justified worry?







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    This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
    – klin
    Nov 21 '18 at 0:58










  • The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
    – Laurenz Albe
    Nov 21 '18 at 4:52














  • 1




    This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
    – klin
    Nov 21 '18 at 0:58










  • The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
    – Laurenz Albe
    Nov 21 '18 at 4:52








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This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
– klin
Nov 21 '18 at 0:58




This idle update in no way differs from any other real update. It doesn't depend on the Postgres version and doesn't seem it would change in future.
– klin
Nov 21 '18 at 0:58












The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
– Laurenz Albe
Nov 21 '18 at 4:52




The behavior won't change precisely because that would break use cases like this.
– Laurenz Albe
Nov 21 '18 at 4:52












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