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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。




I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?










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    自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。




    I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?










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      自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。




      I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?










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      自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。




      I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?







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          声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.



          声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".





          • 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。

          • 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。




          See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?






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            I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form




            晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.




            So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.




            晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.




            but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:




            自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.




            In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して+verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".




            声に出して読む - To read out loud.







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              Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

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            • Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

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            声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.



            声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".





            • 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。

            • 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。




            See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?






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              声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.



              声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".





              • 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。

              • 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。




              See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?






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                声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.



                声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".





                • 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。

                • 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。




                See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?






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                声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.



                声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".





                • 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。

                • 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。




                See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?







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                    I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.




                    So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.




                    but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:




                    自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.




                    In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して+verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".




                    声に出して読む - To read out loud.







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                      Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                      – Toyu_Frey
                      1 hour ago











                    • Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                      – Felipe Oliveira
                      1 hour ago
















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                    I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.




                    So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.




                    but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:




                    自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.




                    In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して+verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".




                    声に出して読む - To read out loud.







                    share|improve this answer





















                    • 1





                      Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                      – Toyu_Frey
                      1 hour ago











                    • Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                      – Felipe Oliveira
                      1 hour ago














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                    I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.




                    So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.




                    but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:




                    自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.




                    In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して+verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".




                    声に出して読む - To read out loud.







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                    I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.




                    So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.




                    晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.




                    but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:




                    自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.




                    In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して+verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".




                    声に出して読む - To read out loud.








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                      Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                      – Toyu_Frey
                      1 hour ago











                    • Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                      – Felipe Oliveira
                      1 hour ago














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                      Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                      – Toyu_Frey
                      1 hour ago











                    • Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                      – Felipe Oliveira
                      1 hour ago








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                    Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                    – Toyu_Frey
                    1 hour ago





                    Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.

                    – Toyu_Frey
                    1 hour ago













                    Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                    – Felipe Oliveira
                    1 hour ago





                    Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)

                    – Felipe Oliveira
                    1 hour ago


















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