What is the value of α and β in a triangle?
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On triangle ABC, with angles α over A, β over B, and γ over C. Where γ is 140°.
On $overline{AB}$ lies point D (different from A and B).
On $overline{AC}$ lies point E (different from A and C).
$overline{AE}$, $overline{ED}$, $overline{DC}$, $overline{CB}$ are of same length.
What is the value of α and β?
EDIT: Here's my "solution", however the sum of the angles is greater than 180°.
geometry triangles
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On triangle ABC, with angles α over A, β over B, and γ over C. Where γ is 140°.
On $overline{AB}$ lies point D (different from A and B).
On $overline{AC}$ lies point E (different from A and C).
$overline{AE}$, $overline{ED}$, $overline{DC}$, $overline{CB}$ are of same length.
What is the value of α and β?
EDIT: Here's my "solution", however the sum of the angles is greater than 180°.
geometry triangles
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What have you done? Have you, for instance, drawn this thing?
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– Arthur
1 hour ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
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– Peter Parada
1 hour ago
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Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
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– TonyK
51 mins ago
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$begingroup$
On triangle ABC, with angles α over A, β over B, and γ over C. Where γ is 140°.
On $overline{AB}$ lies point D (different from A and B).
On $overline{AC}$ lies point E (different from A and C).
$overline{AE}$, $overline{ED}$, $overline{DC}$, $overline{CB}$ are of same length.
What is the value of α and β?
EDIT: Here's my "solution", however the sum of the angles is greater than 180°.
geometry triangles
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On triangle ABC, with angles α over A, β over B, and γ over C. Where γ is 140°.
On $overline{AB}$ lies point D (different from A and B).
On $overline{AC}$ lies point E (different from A and C).
$overline{AE}$, $overline{ED}$, $overline{DC}$, $overline{CB}$ are of same length.
What is the value of α and β?
EDIT: Here's my "solution", however the sum of the angles is greater than 180°.
geometry triangles
geometry triangles
edited 59 mins ago
Peter Parada
asked 1 hour ago
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What have you done? Have you, for instance, drawn this thing?
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– Arthur
1 hour ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
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– Peter Parada
1 hour ago
2
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Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
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– TonyK
51 mins ago
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1
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What have you done? Have you, for instance, drawn this thing?
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– Arthur
1 hour ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
$endgroup$
– TonyK
51 mins ago
1
1
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What have you done? Have you, for instance, drawn this thing?
$endgroup$
– Arthur
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
What have you done? Have you, for instance, drawn this thing?
$endgroup$
– Arthur
1 hour ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
1 hour ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
1 hour ago
2
2
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Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
$endgroup$
– TonyK
51 mins ago
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Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
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– TonyK
51 mins ago
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I drew a simple diagram from which one can deduce that
$$alpha=10^circ$$
$$beta=40^circ-alpha=30^circ$$
by noticing that angle $DEC=2alpha$ and hence angle $DCB=140^circ-2alpha$ giving the value of the angle $DBC=20^circ+alpha$. But as angle $DBC$ is equal to angle $ABC$ we get that
$$40^circ-alpha=20^circ+alphaimplies alpha=10^circ$$
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Nice.......[+1]
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
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$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
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– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
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Thank you. Very nice!
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30 mins ago
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The problem is that you've assumed that two isosceles triangles with the same legs will have the same basis-angles...
And $$angle ACBnot= angle DCA$$
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Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
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No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
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– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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48 mins ago
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I drew a simple diagram from which one can deduce that
$$alpha=10^circ$$
$$beta=40^circ-alpha=30^circ$$
by noticing that angle $DEC=2alpha$ and hence angle $DCB=140^circ-2alpha$ giving the value of the angle $DBC=20^circ+alpha$. But as angle $DBC$ is equal to angle $ABC$ we get that
$$40^circ-alpha=20^circ+alphaimplies alpha=10^circ$$
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Nice.......[+1]
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
1
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$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
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– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
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Thank you. Very nice!
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– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
add a comment |
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I drew a simple diagram from which one can deduce that
$$alpha=10^circ$$
$$beta=40^circ-alpha=30^circ$$
by noticing that angle $DEC=2alpha$ and hence angle $DCB=140^circ-2alpha$ giving the value of the angle $DBC=20^circ+alpha$. But as angle $DBC$ is equal to angle $ABC$ we get that
$$40^circ-alpha=20^circ+alphaimplies alpha=10^circ$$
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Nice.......[+1]
$endgroup$
– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
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Thank you. Very nice!
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– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I drew a simple diagram from which one can deduce that
$$alpha=10^circ$$
$$beta=40^circ-alpha=30^circ$$
by noticing that angle $DEC=2alpha$ and hence angle $DCB=140^circ-2alpha$ giving the value of the angle $DBC=20^circ+alpha$. But as angle $DBC$ is equal to angle $ABC$ we get that
$$40^circ-alpha=20^circ+alphaimplies alpha=10^circ$$
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I drew a simple diagram from which one can deduce that
$$alpha=10^circ$$
$$beta=40^circ-alpha=30^circ$$
by noticing that angle $DEC=2alpha$ and hence angle $DCB=140^circ-2alpha$ giving the value of the angle $DBC=20^circ+alpha$. But as angle $DBC$ is equal to angle $ABC$ we get that
$$40^circ-alpha=20^circ+alphaimplies alpha=10^circ$$
answered 56 mins ago
Peter ForemanPeter Foreman
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Nice.......[+1]
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
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Thank you. Very nice!
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Nice.......[+1]
$endgroup$
– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
$begingroup$
@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thank you. Very nice!
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
Nice.......[+1]
$endgroup$
– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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Nice.......[+1]
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
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@peter-foreman How have you deduced that DEC is 2𝛼?
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– Peter Parada
44 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
$begingroup$
$ADE=alpha$ due to the isosceles triangle formed. $AED=180^circ-2alpha$ as angles in a triangle add to $180^circ$. $DEC=180^circ-AED=2alpha$ as a straight line contains $180^circ$.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
35 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thank you. Very nice!
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thank you. Very nice!
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– Peter Parada
30 mins ago
add a comment |
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The problem is that you've assumed that two isosceles triangles with the same legs will have the same basis-angles...
And $$angle ACBnot= angle DCA$$
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Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
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– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
1
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No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
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– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
1
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Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
add a comment |
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The problem is that you've assumed that two isosceles triangles with the same legs will have the same basis-angles...
And $$angle ACBnot= angle DCA$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
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– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
1
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Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
add a comment |
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The problem is that you've assumed that two isosceles triangles with the same legs will have the same basis-angles...
And $$angle ACBnot= angle DCA$$
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The problem is that you've assumed that two isosceles triangles with the same legs will have the same basis-angles...
And $$angle ACBnot= angle DCA$$
edited 50 mins ago
answered 57 mins ago
Dr. MathvaDr. Mathva
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Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
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Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
$begingroup$
Not sure if we are on the same page, but I am assuming exacly that. If 2 sides are equal, then 2 angles in triangle are also equal. - "The two angles opposite the legs are equal and are always acute" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosceles_triangle
$endgroup$
– Peter Parada
54 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
No what he means is that all of the triangles in your diagram have different valued base angles - they are not all simply $x$. Just because two side lengths are the same does not imply all angles of a triangle are the same.
$endgroup$
– Peter Foreman
50 mins ago
$begingroup$
Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
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Exactly @PeterForeman!
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– Dr. Mathva
49 mins ago
1
1
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Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
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Ok. Got it. Thanks for the picture.
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– Peter Parada
48 mins ago
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I had some solution where α and β were both 40° which was nonsense for me. Will do some drawing for better imagination.
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Your drawing is hopelessly inaccurate. For example, $x$ (which should be $alpha$, by the way) seems to range from $40^circ$ to $110^circ$. Surely you can do better than that?
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