Resolution exercises on complex numbers
up vote
6
down vote
favorite
How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
complex-numbers
New contributor
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
favorite
How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
complex-numbers
New contributor
2
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
1
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
favorite
up vote
6
down vote
favorite
How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
complex-numbers
New contributor
How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
complex-numbers
complex-numbers
New contributor
New contributor
edited 23 hours ago
New contributor
asked 23 hours ago
Vincenzo Iannucci
343
343
New contributor
New contributor
2
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
1
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
1
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago
2
2
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
1
1
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago
add a comment |
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
up vote
10
down vote
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
add a comment |
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
10
down vote
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
10
down vote
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
edited 17 hours ago
answered 22 hours ago
lab bhattacharjee
220k15154271
220k15154271
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
answered 23 hours ago
Fred
42k1642
42k1642
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
answered 23 hours ago
lab bhattacharjee
220k15154271
220k15154271
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
edited 15 hours ago
answered 22 hours ago
trancelocation
8,1291519
8,1291519
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
answered 21 hours ago
Deepak
16.5k11436
16.5k11436
add a comment |
add a comment |
Vincenzo Iannucci is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Vincenzo Iannucci is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Vincenzo Iannucci is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Vincenzo Iannucci is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3007387%2fresolution-exercises-on-complex-numbers%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
2
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
23 hours ago
1
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
19 hours ago