Why is a friend asking me to make multiple Money Gram transfers in my name using his money?











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For the past few months, someone that I know casually is sending money to the Philippines every 2 to 3 days. He mentioned that the money is going to his family so that they can use it to travel to United States. So far, no one has come to United States. He mentioned that he couldn’t send the money because he had met the maximum amount of money that can be sent.



He puts the MoneyGram form in my name, hands me the money and I go to the counter. I have noticed that he uses two or three names on the form to collect it. For the first few times that I did this, I thought that this was OK. By now, I have probably done this 30 to 40 times. My issue is that it's my name on the MoneyGram form as the sender.



Does anyone have an idea of what he is doing and why he can’t fulfill this obligation himself?



Will I get in trouble for doing this?










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    Stop doing this right now.
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    You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
    – Broots Waymb
    yesterday






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    30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
    – Serge Seredenko
    yesterday






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    I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
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    If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
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For the past few months, someone that I know casually is sending money to the Philippines every 2 to 3 days. He mentioned that the money is going to his family so that they can use it to travel to United States. So far, no one has come to United States. He mentioned that he couldn’t send the money because he had met the maximum amount of money that can be sent.



He puts the MoneyGram form in my name, hands me the money and I go to the counter. I have noticed that he uses two or three names on the form to collect it. For the first few times that I did this, I thought that this was OK. By now, I have probably done this 30 to 40 times. My issue is that it's my name on the MoneyGram form as the sender.



Does anyone have an idea of what he is doing and why he can’t fulfill this obligation himself?



Will I get in trouble for doing this?










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    Stop doing this right now.
    – Glen Pierce
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    You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
    – Broots Waymb
    yesterday






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    30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
    – Serge Seredenko
    yesterday






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    I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
    – Palpus
    22 hours ago






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    If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
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For the past few months, someone that I know casually is sending money to the Philippines every 2 to 3 days. He mentioned that the money is going to his family so that they can use it to travel to United States. So far, no one has come to United States. He mentioned that he couldn’t send the money because he had met the maximum amount of money that can be sent.



He puts the MoneyGram form in my name, hands me the money and I go to the counter. I have noticed that he uses two or three names on the form to collect it. For the first few times that I did this, I thought that this was OK. By now, I have probably done this 30 to 40 times. My issue is that it's my name on the MoneyGram form as the sender.



Does anyone have an idea of what he is doing and why he can’t fulfill this obligation himself?



Will I get in trouble for doing this?










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For the past few months, someone that I know casually is sending money to the Philippines every 2 to 3 days. He mentioned that the money is going to his family so that they can use it to travel to United States. So far, no one has come to United States. He mentioned that he couldn’t send the money because he had met the maximum amount of money that can be sent.



He puts the MoneyGram form in my name, hands me the money and I go to the counter. I have noticed that he uses two or three names on the form to collect it. For the first few times that I did this, I thought that this was OK. By now, I have probably done this 30 to 40 times. My issue is that it's my name on the MoneyGram form as the sender.



Does anyone have an idea of what he is doing and why he can’t fulfill this obligation himself?



Will I get in trouble for doing this?







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  • 84




    Stop doing this right now.
    – Glen Pierce
    2 days ago






  • 21




    You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
    – Broots Waymb
    yesterday






  • 2




    30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
    – Serge Seredenko
    yesterday






  • 3




    I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
    – Palpus
    22 hours ago






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    If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
    – Sebastiaan van den Broek
    13 hours ago














  • 84




    Stop doing this right now.
    – Glen Pierce
    2 days ago






  • 21




    You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
    – Broots Waymb
    yesterday






  • 2




    30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
    – Serge Seredenko
    yesterday






  • 3




    I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
    – Palpus
    22 hours ago






  • 4




    If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
    – Sebastiaan van den Broek
    13 hours ago








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Stop doing this right now.
– Glen Pierce
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Stop doing this right now.
– Glen Pierce
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You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
– Broots Waymb
yesterday




You went from "maybe the third time" to "30 to 40 times"..? If things seemed shady by the 3rd time, why on Earth would you continue to do it another 27+ times??
– Broots Waymb
yesterday




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30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
– Serge Seredenko
yesterday




30 times? I really hope you didn't take money yourself for "helping" him.
– Serge Seredenko
yesterday




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I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
– Palpus
22 hours ago




I agree broots. The only thing I can say is I have been known to be gullible. Or persuaded. but certainly not slow. I guess at this point I’m very tired of doing it and I begin to question why all of this was going on. Everyone of you made some form of a valid point. I have decided I am no longer going to Participate in the unknown.. And no Serge, I accepted no money. It all sounds very strange once it is put into words for me to read
– Palpus
22 hours ago




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If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
– Sebastiaan van den Broek
13 hours ago




If you just stop participating rather than following the advice to get a lawyer, you may have to pay all that money back, go to jail or both.
– Sebastiaan van den Broek
13 hours ago










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  1. Stop doing this. If your friend contacts you, don't answer until you've followed through on step 2.


  2. Go get a lawyer. They might advise you to contact the police and tell the police what's been going on before you get a knock on the door with a warrant behind it.


Here is why: you are almost certainly inadvertently participating in money laundering. The funds are going through you and being "cleaned".






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    Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
    – Steve-O
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    OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
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Scam/Criminal.



There is no limit how much money he can send into the world, so the excuse is BS.

Of course, nobody can say for sure, but the chances are that it is money laundry: Illegally acquired cash is paid in, and the receiver sends it right back as a clean electronic transfer. When the FBI (or the DEA or another alphabet-soup-agency) catches up to it, they will knock on your door, your ID will be on the transfers, and you will go to jail for money laundering. Your 'friend' probably has a dozen other friends already doing that for him, and none of them knows his real name.






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    Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
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    @DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
    – tjbp
    yesterday






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    @tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
    – DonQuiKong
    18 hours ago










  • The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
    – Pierre B
    11 hours ago










  • @DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
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I want to add to these answers, the concern I have over "someone I know". How well do you know them? If the police or organised crime/FBI style of law enforcement knock on your door, or get involved, you will go a long way to clear yourself of other than claiming personal naivety, if you can identify the "someone". The concern I have is that I don't know, from your question, if you can do so.



Your problem is that there is no trace where the money came from, where it went, or who has it now. A reasonable assumption would be that you signed everything, so an associate of yours has ended up holding it. So suspicion is likely, and your defense will have a high chance of sounding flimsy.



It's a bit underhand but as there seems a very high chance 1) there is serious criminal activity going on, 2) you're being used as a fall guy and set up by this "someone" in it, I would be a bit willing to do the following:




  1. Get the guy's fingerprints on something. A phone you offer them to look at a picture, a glass, a can of soda, whatever it is that you can give him as part of ordinary conversation, that he would take without thinking, then give back or put down, and you can hold without rubbing the new prints.

  2. Get a photo at some time. If it's a criminal matter, you can bet that the moment there's a wisp of any issue, or he pulls out (and you might not know when it happens), he might never be seen again. All you'll have is a story about "someone". A photo will be very useful in worst cases, if you can take one without being seen.


Then, if you contact the police or they knock on your door, or accuse you/hint they think you were a knowing party, you have something concrete to give beyond a vague description.



At which point, now contact a lawyer or police. I'd suggest police because lawyers cost and you don't need the expense. And a lawyer may well simply say to go to the police anyway.






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    Going to the police without a lawyer is a really bad idea.
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  1. Stop doing this. If your friend contacts you, don't answer until you've followed through on step 2.


  2. Go get a lawyer. They might advise you to contact the police and tell the police what's been going on before you get a knock on the door with a warrant behind it.


Here is why: you are almost certainly inadvertently participating in money laundering. The funds are going through you and being "cleaned".






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    Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
    – Steve-O
    yesterday






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    OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
    – Palpus
    22 hours ago















up vote
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  1. Stop doing this. If your friend contacts you, don't answer until you've followed through on step 2.


  2. Go get a lawyer. They might advise you to contact the police and tell the police what's been going on before you get a knock on the door with a warrant behind it.


Here is why: you are almost certainly inadvertently participating in money laundering. The funds are going through you and being "cleaned".






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    we need a fusion tool to get both answers together and have the perfect answer : advice and explanation. This gives advice, @Aganju's answer gives explanation
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    @everyone We have two. One is called “Add an answer”. The other is called “Edit”. :D
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    I know, I just thought that the idea of a button that would go all dragon ball z fusion to create the ultimate answer pretty fun.
    – everyone
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    Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
    – Steve-O
    yesterday






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    OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
    – Palpus
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  1. Stop doing this. If your friend contacts you, don't answer until you've followed through on step 2.


  2. Go get a lawyer. They might advise you to contact the police and tell the police what's been going on before you get a knock on the door with a warrant behind it.


Here is why: you are almost certainly inadvertently participating in money laundering. The funds are going through you and being "cleaned".






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  1. Stop doing this. If your friend contacts you, don't answer until you've followed through on step 2.


  2. Go get a lawyer. They might advise you to contact the police and tell the police what's been going on before you get a knock on the door with a warrant behind it.


Here is why: you are almost certainly inadvertently participating in money laundering. The funds are going through you and being "cleaned".







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    @everyone We have two. One is called “Add an answer”. The other is called “Edit”. :D
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    I know, I just thought that the idea of a button that would go all dragon ball z fusion to create the ultimate answer pretty fun.
    – everyone
    yesterday






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    Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
    – Steve-O
    yesterday






  • 1




    OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
    – Palpus
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    we need a fusion tool to get both answers together and have the perfect answer : advice and explanation. This gives advice, @Aganju's answer gives explanation
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    @everyone We have two. One is called “Add an answer”. The other is called “Edit”. :D
    – Lawrence
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    I know, I just thought that the idea of a button that would go all dragon ball z fusion to create the ultimate answer pretty fun.
    – everyone
    yesterday






  • 24




    Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
    – Steve-O
    yesterday






  • 1




    OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
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@everyone We have two. One is called “Add an answer”. The other is called “Edit”. :D
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@everyone We have two. One is called “Add an answer”. The other is called “Edit”. :D
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I know, I just thought that the idea of a button that would go all dragon ball z fusion to create the ultimate answer pretty fun.
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I know, I just thought that the idea of a button that would go all dragon ball z fusion to create the ultimate answer pretty fun.
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Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
– Steve-O
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Seriously though, OP, do this. Especially the lawyer part - don't go directly to the police - do so with a lawyer's guidance, for your own protection.
– Steve-O
yesterday




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OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
– Palpus
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OK, I certainly am going to cease Doing this at once! The fear factor here is now Will any of it leak back to me In the event something unsavory is taking place? I feel sick from knowing that I may have done something illegal Without first asking the questions that was important.
– Palpus
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Scam/Criminal.



There is no limit how much money he can send into the world, so the excuse is BS.

Of course, nobody can say for sure, but the chances are that it is money laundry: Illegally acquired cash is paid in, and the receiver sends it right back as a clean electronic transfer. When the FBI (or the DEA or another alphabet-soup-agency) catches up to it, they will knock on your door, your ID will be on the transfers, and you will go to jail for money laundering. Your 'friend' probably has a dozen other friends already doing that for him, and none of them knows his real name.






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    Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
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    @DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
    – tjbp
    yesterday






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    @tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
    – DonQuiKong
    18 hours ago










  • The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
    – Pierre B
    11 hours ago










  • @DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
    – Jason Goemaat
    6 hours ago















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Scam/Criminal.



There is no limit how much money he can send into the world, so the excuse is BS.

Of course, nobody can say for sure, but the chances are that it is money laundry: Illegally acquired cash is paid in, and the receiver sends it right back as a clean electronic transfer. When the FBI (or the DEA or another alphabet-soup-agency) catches up to it, they will knock on your door, your ID will be on the transfers, and you will go to jail for money laundering. Your 'friend' probably has a dozen other friends already doing that for him, and none of them knows his real name.






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    Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
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    @DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
    – tjbp
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    @tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
    – DonQuiKong
    18 hours ago










  • The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
    – Pierre B
    11 hours ago










  • @DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
    – Jason Goemaat
    6 hours ago













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Scam/Criminal.



There is no limit how much money he can send into the world, so the excuse is BS.

Of course, nobody can say for sure, but the chances are that it is money laundry: Illegally acquired cash is paid in, and the receiver sends it right back as a clean electronic transfer. When the FBI (or the DEA or another alphabet-soup-agency) catches up to it, they will knock on your door, your ID will be on the transfers, and you will go to jail for money laundering. Your 'friend' probably has a dozen other friends already doing that for him, and none of them knows his real name.






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Scam/Criminal.



There is no limit how much money he can send into the world, so the excuse is BS.

Of course, nobody can say for sure, but the chances are that it is money laundry: Illegally acquired cash is paid in, and the receiver sends it right back as a clean electronic transfer. When the FBI (or the DEA or another alphabet-soup-agency) catches up to it, they will knock on your door, your ID will be on the transfers, and you will go to jail for money laundering. Your 'friend' probably has a dozen other friends already doing that for him, and none of them knows his real name.







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  • 25




    Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
    – DonQuiKong
    yesterday






  • 3




    @DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
    – tjbp
    yesterday






  • 1




    @tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
    – DonQuiKong
    18 hours ago










  • The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
    – Pierre B
    11 hours ago










  • @DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
    – Jason Goemaat
    6 hours ago














  • 25




    Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
    – DonQuiKong
    yesterday






  • 3




    @DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
    – tjbp
    yesterday






  • 1




    @tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
    – DonQuiKong
    18 hours ago










  • The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
    – Pierre B
    11 hours ago










  • @DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
    – Jason Goemaat
    6 hours ago








25




25




Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
– DonQuiKong
yesterday




Yeah, but your answer is missing a crucial part -> the solution.
– DonQuiKong
yesterday




3




3




@DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
– tjbp
yesterday




@DonQuiKong how so? There were 3 questions: will OP get in trouble, what is the third party doing, why can't the third party do it himself. All three answered above; yes he will get in trouble, the third party is laundering money, and the essential component to money laundering is you don't do things yourself if it draws the authorities' attention to you. Those are the solutions to the questions.
– tjbp
yesterday




1




1




@tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
– DonQuiKong
18 hours ago




@tjbp sure, but none of those solves the problem. “Do I have a problem with this?“ “yep, you're screwed“. There's the go to a lawyer asap missing
– DonQuiKong
18 hours ago












The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
– Pierre B
11 hours ago




The limit is of Money Gram, not everything else. Still BS, I know.
– Pierre B
11 hours ago












@DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
– Jason Goemaat
6 hours ago




@DonQuiKong Where is the question asking for a solution? The title asks what is going on and the last sentence in the body asks if he can get into trouble, but they never ask if there is something he should do to minimize the trouble they could get into.
– Jason Goemaat
6 hours ago










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I want to add to these answers, the concern I have over "someone I know". How well do you know them? If the police or organised crime/FBI style of law enforcement knock on your door, or get involved, you will go a long way to clear yourself of other than claiming personal naivety, if you can identify the "someone". The concern I have is that I don't know, from your question, if you can do so.



Your problem is that there is no trace where the money came from, where it went, or who has it now. A reasonable assumption would be that you signed everything, so an associate of yours has ended up holding it. So suspicion is likely, and your defense will have a high chance of sounding flimsy.



It's a bit underhand but as there seems a very high chance 1) there is serious criminal activity going on, 2) you're being used as a fall guy and set up by this "someone" in it, I would be a bit willing to do the following:




  1. Get the guy's fingerprints on something. A phone you offer them to look at a picture, a glass, a can of soda, whatever it is that you can give him as part of ordinary conversation, that he would take without thinking, then give back or put down, and you can hold without rubbing the new prints.

  2. Get a photo at some time. If it's a criminal matter, you can bet that the moment there's a wisp of any issue, or he pulls out (and you might not know when it happens), he might never be seen again. All you'll have is a story about "someone". A photo will be very useful in worst cases, if you can take one without being seen.


Then, if you contact the police or they knock on your door, or accuse you/hint they think you were a knowing party, you have something concrete to give beyond a vague description.



At which point, now contact a lawyer or police. I'd suggest police because lawyers cost and you don't need the expense. And a lawyer may well simply say to go to the police anyway.






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I want to add to these answers, the concern I have over "someone I know". How well do you know them? If the police or organised crime/FBI style of law enforcement knock on your door, or get involved, you will go a long way to clear yourself of other than claiming personal naivety, if you can identify the "someone". The concern I have is that I don't know, from your question, if you can do so.



Your problem is that there is no trace where the money came from, where it went, or who has it now. A reasonable assumption would be that you signed everything, so an associate of yours has ended up holding it. So suspicion is likely, and your defense will have a high chance of sounding flimsy.



It's a bit underhand but as there seems a very high chance 1) there is serious criminal activity going on, 2) you're being used as a fall guy and set up by this "someone" in it, I would be a bit willing to do the following:




  1. Get the guy's fingerprints on something. A phone you offer them to look at a picture, a glass, a can of soda, whatever it is that you can give him as part of ordinary conversation, that he would take without thinking, then give back or put down, and you can hold without rubbing the new prints.

  2. Get a photo at some time. If it's a criminal matter, you can bet that the moment there's a wisp of any issue, or he pulls out (and you might not know when it happens), he might never be seen again. All you'll have is a story about "someone". A photo will be very useful in worst cases, if you can take one without being seen.


Then, if you contact the police or they knock on your door, or accuse you/hint they think you were a knowing party, you have something concrete to give beyond a vague description.



At which point, now contact a lawyer or police. I'd suggest police because lawyers cost and you don't need the expense. And a lawyer may well simply say to go to the police anyway.






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  • 1




    Going to the police without a lawyer is a really bad idea.
    – R..
    2 hours ago













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up vote
2
down vote









I want to add to these answers, the concern I have over "someone I know". How well do you know them? If the police or organised crime/FBI style of law enforcement knock on your door, or get involved, you will go a long way to clear yourself of other than claiming personal naivety, if you can identify the "someone". The concern I have is that I don't know, from your question, if you can do so.



Your problem is that there is no trace where the money came from, where it went, or who has it now. A reasonable assumption would be that you signed everything, so an associate of yours has ended up holding it. So suspicion is likely, and your defense will have a high chance of sounding flimsy.



It's a bit underhand but as there seems a very high chance 1) there is serious criminal activity going on, 2) you're being used as a fall guy and set up by this "someone" in it, I would be a bit willing to do the following:




  1. Get the guy's fingerprints on something. A phone you offer them to look at a picture, a glass, a can of soda, whatever it is that you can give him as part of ordinary conversation, that he would take without thinking, then give back or put down, and you can hold without rubbing the new prints.

  2. Get a photo at some time. If it's a criminal matter, you can bet that the moment there's a wisp of any issue, or he pulls out (and you might not know when it happens), he might never be seen again. All you'll have is a story about "someone". A photo will be very useful in worst cases, if you can take one without being seen.


Then, if you contact the police or they knock on your door, or accuse you/hint they think you were a knowing party, you have something concrete to give beyond a vague description.



At which point, now contact a lawyer or police. I'd suggest police because lawyers cost and you don't need the expense. And a lawyer may well simply say to go to the police anyway.






share|improve this answer












I want to add to these answers, the concern I have over "someone I know". How well do you know them? If the police or organised crime/FBI style of law enforcement knock on your door, or get involved, you will go a long way to clear yourself of other than claiming personal naivety, if you can identify the "someone". The concern I have is that I don't know, from your question, if you can do so.



Your problem is that there is no trace where the money came from, where it went, or who has it now. A reasonable assumption would be that you signed everything, so an associate of yours has ended up holding it. So suspicion is likely, and your defense will have a high chance of sounding flimsy.



It's a bit underhand but as there seems a very high chance 1) there is serious criminal activity going on, 2) you're being used as a fall guy and set up by this "someone" in it, I would be a bit willing to do the following:




  1. Get the guy's fingerprints on something. A phone you offer them to look at a picture, a glass, a can of soda, whatever it is that you can give him as part of ordinary conversation, that he would take without thinking, then give back or put down, and you can hold without rubbing the new prints.

  2. Get a photo at some time. If it's a criminal matter, you can bet that the moment there's a wisp of any issue, or he pulls out (and you might not know when it happens), he might never be seen again. All you'll have is a story about "someone". A photo will be very useful in worst cases, if you can take one without being seen.


Then, if you contact the police or they knock on your door, or accuse you/hint they think you were a knowing party, you have something concrete to give beyond a vague description.



At which point, now contact a lawyer or police. I'd suggest police because lawyers cost and you don't need the expense. And a lawyer may well simply say to go to the police anyway.







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    Going to the police without a lawyer is a really bad idea.
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