Is there a reasonable and studied concept of reduction between regular lagnagues?












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Have been any interesting formulations for the concept of reduction between regular langauges, and if yes -- are there regular-complete languages for those reductions?










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    Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
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    No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
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    As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
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    I have edited the question accordingly.
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Have been any interesting formulations for the concept of reduction between regular langauges, and if yes -- are there regular-complete languages for those reductions?










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    Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
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    No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
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    As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
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    – Apass.Jack
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    I have edited the question accordingly.
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Have been any interesting formulations for the concept of reduction between regular langauges, and if yes -- are there regular-complete languages for those reductions?










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    Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
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    – D.W.
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    No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
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    – user2304620
    1 hour ago










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    As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
    $endgroup$
    – Apass.Jack
    1 hour ago












  • $begingroup$
    I have edited the question accordingly.
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    – user1767774
    1 hour ago


















  • $begingroup$
    Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
    $endgroup$
    – D.W.
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
    $endgroup$
    – user2304620
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
    $endgroup$
    – Apass.Jack
    1 hour ago












  • $begingroup$
    I have edited the question accordingly.
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    – user1767774
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Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
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– D.W.
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Once you define a notion of reduction, there automatically becomes a notion of complete languages. Did you have any particular kind of reduction in mind? Or any aspect of regular languages you want to use it to shed light on?
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– D.W.
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No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
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No, just interested if such notions have been studied.
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$begingroup$
As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
1 hour ago






$begingroup$
As indicated by D.W., the right question to ask is, is there a reasonable and interesting notion of reduction for regular language? I recommend you to update your post with that question.
$endgroup$
– Apass.Jack
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I have edited the question accordingly.
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I have edited the question accordingly.
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It only makes sense to talk about reductions between languages if the reduction are allowed to use less resources than the languages we're talking about. For example, when we reduce between problems in NP, we use (deterministic) polynomial-time reductions, or even log-space reductions. (OK, we don't know that those are less powerful than NP, but they seem to be.) If you don't use reductions that are weaker than the class of problems you're interested in, you end up with the boring result that everything except $emptyset$ and $Sigma^*$ is complete.



All regular languages can be decided in linear time and constant space. It's hard to imagine any weaker resource bound that you could use to perform the reductions, so the concept of reductions probably isn't interesting, here.






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    How about local reductions, i.e. NC0 reductions?
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It only makes sense to talk about reductions between languages if the reduction are allowed to use less resources than the languages we're talking about. For example, when we reduce between problems in NP, we use (deterministic) polynomial-time reductions, or even log-space reductions. (OK, we don't know that those are less powerful than NP, but they seem to be.) If you don't use reductions that are weaker than the class of problems you're interested in, you end up with the boring result that everything except $emptyset$ and $Sigma^*$ is complete.



All regular languages can be decided in linear time and constant space. It's hard to imagine any weaker resource bound that you could use to perform the reductions, so the concept of reductions probably isn't interesting, here.






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    How about local reductions, i.e. NC0 reductions?
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It only makes sense to talk about reductions between languages if the reduction are allowed to use less resources than the languages we're talking about. For example, when we reduce between problems in NP, we use (deterministic) polynomial-time reductions, or even log-space reductions. (OK, we don't know that those are less powerful than NP, but they seem to be.) If you don't use reductions that are weaker than the class of problems you're interested in, you end up with the boring result that everything except $emptyset$ and $Sigma^*$ is complete.



All regular languages can be decided in linear time and constant space. It's hard to imagine any weaker resource bound that you could use to perform the reductions, so the concept of reductions probably isn't interesting, here.






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    How about local reductions, i.e. NC0 reductions?
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It only makes sense to talk about reductions between languages if the reduction are allowed to use less resources than the languages we're talking about. For example, when we reduce between problems in NP, we use (deterministic) polynomial-time reductions, or even log-space reductions. (OK, we don't know that those are less powerful than NP, but they seem to be.) If you don't use reductions that are weaker than the class of problems you're interested in, you end up with the boring result that everything except $emptyset$ and $Sigma^*$ is complete.



All regular languages can be decided in linear time and constant space. It's hard to imagine any weaker resource bound that you could use to perform the reductions, so the concept of reductions probably isn't interesting, here.






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It only makes sense to talk about reductions between languages if the reduction are allowed to use less resources than the languages we're talking about. For example, when we reduce between problems in NP, we use (deterministic) polynomial-time reductions, or even log-space reductions. (OK, we don't know that those are less powerful than NP, but they seem to be.) If you don't use reductions that are weaker than the class of problems you're interested in, you end up with the boring result that everything except $emptyset$ and $Sigma^*$ is complete.



All regular languages can be decided in linear time and constant space. It's hard to imagine any weaker resource bound that you could use to perform the reductions, so the concept of reductions probably isn't interesting, here.







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    How about local reductions, i.e. NC0 reductions?
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How about local reductions, i.e. NC0 reductions?
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